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  • Welcome to Sunday Conversation

    Welcome to Sunday Conversation

    As it is Sunday, I thought It would be fun to start with “church” humor.


  • Horowitz: We can no longer celebrate our independence. We must fight for it.

    Horowitz: We can no longer celebrate our independence. We must fight for it.

    Horowitz:

    We can no longer celebrate our independence.

    We must fight for it again.

    The Fourth of July

    Daniel Horowitz

    The day was July 4, 1826. As John Adams lay on his deathbed in the afternoon, he uttered his final words: “Thomas Jefferson survives.” While in the literal sense, Adams was mistaken because Jefferson had died several hours earlier, in one way he was correct. The work that Jefferson completed on that very day exactly 50 years before – the work Adams helped him craft before the two became archenemies and then friends again – survived another two hundred years. Until now.

    July 4, 2020, will be an Independence Day celebration like never before. In fact, it won’t be a celebration at all, but merely a commemoration of what we have lost and hopefully a reminder of what we need to fight for all over again after 244 years. It will be marked not by the grand public displays of fireworks, for those are forbidden by restrictions upon the very liberties expressed in the Declaration of Independence, but rather by the sounds of fireworks being thrown by anarchists against police – anarchists who now dictate our way of life as we the people continue to be locked down.

    It wasn’t just the statue of Thomas Jefferson that was ripped down in Portland, Oregon. It was the foundational governing document he helped draft – the guiding light of our republic until it died 244 years later – that has been torn to shreds.

    Ronald Reagan observed on July 4, 1986, as he related the story of the reuniting of Jefferson and Adams in friendship, that “the things that unite us – America’s past of which we’re so proud, our hopes and aspirations for the future of the world and this much-loved country – these things far outweigh what little divides us.”

    Well, indeed, 34 years later, we can now say with certainty that there are very few things that do not divide us, chief among them whether we are even proud of America’s past or whether we seek to uproot every last vestige of its memory.

    In order to understand what we have lost and what we need to fight for again, let’s review the precious document that was signed on July 4, 1776. The product of five great men – Benjamin Franklin, John Adams, Roger Sherman, Robert Livingston, and Thomas Jefferson – in just the 201 words of its preamble, this founding charter of government established six inviolate principles of the morality of a just governing system – all of which have since been broken:

    1. That individuals are born with natural rights that come from God, not from historical precedent, English Common Law, or the democratic whims of the majority in a given society. Those rights are beyond the reach of mob rule or a tyrannical political majority.
    2. That chief among those natural rights given by God are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, to earn a living and own property. Implicit in this is the natural right to self-defense. As Sam Adams, the Founding Father of the American Revolution, said, “Among the natural rights of the colonists are these: First a right to life, secondly to liberty, and thirdly to property; together with the right to defend them in the best manner they can.”
    3. That individuals form a government as a social compact, not to infringe upon those rights but to protect those inalienable rights from threats in a way that could not be managed without a governing body.
    4. That on issues not affecting inalienable rights, government may exercise other just powers, primarily for the safety and stability of the society, but only by the consent of the people as expressed through some legitimate form of republican representation (consent of the governed). Inherent in this principle is that no outside forces not controlled by the members of that society itself may determine the destiny of the society.
    5. That all men were created equal in access to and defense of those inalienable rights, not societal outcomes, privileges, or other human pursuits, an ideal that runs to natural law. Also, implicit in the preamble is that all members of a given society are equal in the right to self-governance in their respective societies on their territories and that no ruling class or individual has the right to invasively govern over someone else’s life.
    6. That when a long train of abuses and usurpations of the aforementioned principles continues without any other recourse, the people have the right, indeed a duty, to rebel against the existing system.

    The first five principles have been abrogated beyond recognition, which leaves us struggling with how to apply the sixth.

    Today, we are suffering from a perfect contortion of these self-evident truths – the worst mix of tyranny and anarchy and the most widespread violations of fundamental rights since our Founding. We have a government that undemocratically locks down our physical movement and right to earn a living based on distorted data and flat-earth “science,” while facilitating unequal treatment for favored classes to riot. They strip us of the right to self-defense, while freely empowering their protected people and movements to maim, loot, block free movement, and even kill.

    Everything our governments should be doing, they ignore, and everything they are prohibited from doing based on natural law, they elevate to the highest order of governance.

    Mobs are allowed to roam freely and dictate policies through fear and intimidation.

    Desires of foreign nationals who are not signatories to the social compact founded in the Declaration are elevated above the rights of the citizens governed by the compact.

    Government by the consent of the governed? Our government is allowing people across the border to come here to get treated for the virus, then using those hospitalizations as a pretext to place curfews and other restrictions on the liberty and property of Americans.

    “That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men …” They are now allowing roving mobs to restrict our movement and attack motorists. In the process, they are spreading the virus, which gives this same illegitimate government further excuse to blame we the people and lock us down. We can’t gather in small groups to work or socialize, while they can gather in the thousands to dismantle our republic. How is that for all men created equal?

    As I laid out in my indictment of our illegitimate government, rather than a government built on promoting and protecting inalienable rights for all, we have a government that manufactures super-rights and privileges for some at the expense of foundational rights of the whole of the people. Liberty, according to our illegitimate politicians, now means the right to someone else’s property or a public benefit, instead of freedom from restraint by someone else or by government.

    Thus, this is not about a few or or even many policy disagreements. It all stems from the government’s contortion of life, liberty, and property to mean the exact opposite of what our Founders knew them to be. There is no bridging the divide.

    This government will not fix itself without deeper intervention and divine guidance. The Republican Party is part of the problem, not the solution. As we grope in the darkness and strategize and pray for a long-term or even short-term solution, we ourselves must never forget our liberty and property rights as well as the right to individual and jurisdictional sovereignty. We must never forget that these truths are still self-evident and that we are still willing to fight for them. We must never agree to this grotesque confluence of anarchy and tyranny as “the new normal.” And we must certainly never legitimize this illegitimate usurpation of our social contract.

    They might have torn down Jefferson’s statue and perverted the government built on the contract he wrote, but we still have the actual contract. It belongs to us. And in that contract, Jefferson offered not only the moral imperative to break away from England but also the moral imperative to fight back against future government usurpations of that contract in the future. That contract is eternal, because it is built on natural law from God.

    As Abraham Lincoln said following the Supreme Court’s dreadful Dred Scott decision in 1858:

    The assertion that “all men are created equal” was of no practical use in effecting our separation from Great Britain; and it was placed in the Declaration, not for that, but for future use. Its authors meant it to be, thank God, it is now proving itself, a stumbling block to those who in after times might seek to turn a free people back into the hateful paths of despotism. They knew the proneness of prosperity to breed tyrants, and they meant when such should re-appear in this fair land and commence their vocation they should find left for them at least one hard nut to crack.

    Those infallible rights we are endowed with are inherent and don’t come from government. They cannot be covered by a mask. They cannot be taken away.

    So, where do we go from here? As we formulate a long-term solution to a problem that is much greater than any of us can deal with alone, we need to build an immediate movement and take steps. The first step is to rise up and fight back. Until now, only the mob’s voices have been heard, because there is nobody else on the playing field. Nobody is representing us. To that end, we need to think beyond just the electoral process and take back our government under the following short-term propositions:

    • No American should be restricted by arbitrary coronavirus edicts so long as rioters are able to violate them while destroying public and private property.
    • No American without a criminal record should be barred from carrying a gun to protect himself from the lawlessness of gun felons who are allowed to roam the streets.
    • No American should be arrested for self-defense as the police stand back and allow rioters to attack them in cars and on their lawns. Patriotic sheriffs should start programs to deputize and train law-abiding owners to help keep the peace.
    • No American should have to pay local taxes until that governing authority reclaims the streets and the highways from roving bands of anarchists.
    • No federal tax funds should go to jurisdictions promoting lawless sanctuaries for the BLM mobs and criminal aliens. Patriots must demand that Trump veto any budget bill in September that does not defund anarchy.

    Finally, it’s time we organize citizen defense groups the way our Founders envisioned. No, we are not going to attack and harm innocent people as the governing mob is doing, but we will reclaim our right to defend our lives and property. We all respect law enforcement, but local police departments can’t have it both ways. They can’t abdicate their duties and throw us to the wolves but then swoop in when we try to fill the vacuum for our own protection or punish us for not wearing diapers on our faces even outside.

    Just like the Minutemen of the 1770s, we need to form at the local level citizen defense groups to defend life, liberty, and property. After all, what made this great document we commemorate this week more than musings on paper was the signers’ resolve to “mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.” That pledge must be renewed at the local level in parts of the country where patriots are most common. Block by block, city by city, state by state, we must take our country back from the violent modern French revolutionaries and create another great American revolution that will make our Founders proud.

    Eleven years after the signing of the Declaration, many of the same patriots assembled in the same hall in Philadelphia to codify the system of government based on the blueprint of this social compact. During the final day of triumph on September 17, 1787, Benjamin Franklin rose to speak. In his notes on the convention, James Madison captured his words as follows:

    Whilst the last members were signing it [i.e., the Constitution] Doct FRANKLIN looking towards the Presidents Chair, at the back of which a rising sun happened to be painted, observed to a few members near him, that Painters had found it difficult to distinguish in their art a rising from a setting sun. I have said he, often and often in the course of the Session, and the vicissitudes of my hopes and fears as to its issue, looked at that behind the President without being able to tell whether it was rising or setting: But now at length I have the happiness to know that it is a rising and not a setting Sun.

    Over two centuries later, we have come full-circle, just as the Earth rotates on its axis, and we no longer have a rising sun. We have a sun that has already set. But the good news is that through darkness comes light, and from storm clouds come the growth and sustenance of rain. The same God who birthed us with these inherent rights constantly accords us numerous opportunities in life to defend and renew those rights, just as yesterday’s sunset gives birth to a new sunrise. All we have to do is show up and fight for it.

    It won’t be easy, but it wasn’t easy the first time around, when the patriots were in the minority and most were loyalists or indifferent. As John Adams wrote to his wife, Abigail, the day before he signed the great contract of American sentiment, “I am well aware of the toil, and blood, and treasure, that it will cost us to maintain this declaration, and support and defend these states. Yet, through all the gloom, I can see the rays of ravishing light and glory; I can see that the end is more than worth all the means, and that posterity will triumph.”

    “The path of the righteous is like the morning sun, shining ever brighter till the full light of day.” ~Proverbs 4:18


    https://www.theblaze.com/op-ed/horowitz-we-can-no-longer-celebrate-our-independence-we-must-fight-for-it-again

  • Freedom and Liberty

    Freedom and Liberty

    Freedom and Liberty, are they one and the same?  Are they juxtaposed? Or do they exist as solitary ideals independent of one another?  My old Webster’s Collegiate, circa 1949 is not only direct, but without the bias that is so prevalent in today’s publications.  The quotes that follow are from a book titled “Useful Quotations’ circa 1933.

    Note: Truth has no expiration date as the quotes herein attest.

    As these foundational ideas are under horrendous and continual attack, I think it prudent we examine them individually, then collectively.  Let us begin with Freedom.

    It defines Freedom as: the state of being free and as a privilege or franchise.  

    Freedom of religion, freedom of the press, and freedom of person under the protection of habeas corpus, these are principals that have guided our steps through an age of revolution and reformation.  Thomas Jefferson

    To have freedom is only to have that which is absolutely necessary to enable us to be what we ought to be, and to posses what we ought to possess.  Ibn Rahel,   Egyptian chronicler

    There is no legitimacy on earth but in a government which is the choice of the nation. Joseph Bonaparte

    Countries are well cultivated, not as they are fertile, but as they are free.  Montesquieu

    The greatest glory of a free-born people is to transmit that freedom to their children.  William Havard 

    Many politicians lay it down as a self-evident proposition, that no people ought to be free till they are fit to use their freedom.  Thomas Macaulay 

    Indignation boils my blood at the thought of the heritage we are throwing away; at the thought that, with few exceptions, the fight for freedom is left to the poor, forlorn and defenseless, and to the few radicals and revolutionaries who would make use of liberty to destroy, rather than to maintain, American institutions…  Arthur Garfield Hays

    As we return to this old Webster’s, it defines Liberty as: exemption from slavery, bondage, imprisonment or control of another and the sum of the rights and immunities of citizens in a civil society.

    Give me the liberty to know, to think, to believe, and to utter freely, according to conscience, above all other liberties.  John Milton

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with inalienable rights; and that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.  Thomas Jefferson

    The liberty of a people consists in being governed by laws which they have made themselves, under whatsoever form it be of government; the liberty of a private man, in being master of his own time and actions, as far as may consist with the laws of God and his country.      Abraham Cowley 

    Is life so dear, or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery?  –Forbid it, Almighty God! — I know not what course others may take. But, as for me, give me liberty or give me death.  Patrick Henry

    Liberty is the right to do what the laws allow; and if a citizen could do what they forbid, it would be no longer liberty, because others would have the same powers.  Montesquieu

    Liberty is to the collective body, what health is to every individual body.  Without health no pleasure can be tasted by man; without liberty, no happiness can be enjoyed by society.                       Lord Bolingbroke

    In the same proportion that ignorance and vice prevail in a republic, will the government partake of despotism.   William Sprague 

    A nation may lose its liberties in a day, and not miss them for a century.  Montesquieu

    True liberty consists in the privilege of enjoying our own rights, not in the destruction of the rights of others.  George Pinckard 

    May 21, 1944 Federal Judge Learned Hand gave a short address on the meaning of liberty.  He said that liberty did not mean the “freedom to do as one likes.  That is the denial of liberty, and leads straight to its overthrow. A society in which men recognize no check upon their freedom soon becomes a society where freedom is the possession of only a savage few.”

    Distinctions in society will always exist under every just government.  Equality of talents, of education, or of wealth can not be produced by human institutions.  In the full enjoyment of the gifts of Heaven and the fruits of superior industry, economy, and virtue, every man is equally entitled to protection by law; but when the laws undertake to add to these natural and just advantages artificial distinctions, to grant titles, gratuities, and exclusive privileges, to make the rich richer and the potent more powerful, the humble members of society – the farmers, mechanics, and laborers – who have neither the time nor the means of securing like favors to themselves, have a right to complain of the injustice of their Government…   If it would confine itself to equal protection, and, as Heaven does its rains, shower its favors alike on the high and the low, the rich and the poor, (government) would be an unqualified blessing.  Andrew Jackson

    When government is the arbiter of all things, liberty will be no more, Jackson’s comments on distinctions in society are quite pertinent to today; and when the government is complicit in the destruction of freedom the people have not only the right but the obligation as citizens to challenge and protest actions by that government.  Civil disobedience is NOT treason, but that does not mean that you will not be labeled as subversive or some such fertilizer.

    Returning to Webster’s Collegiate notes that “Freedom, a very general term may imply at one extreme total absence of restraint and at the other, an unawareness of being hampered in any way; liberty often differs from freedom in implying a power to say, do etc., what one wishes, as distinguished from being uninhibited in doing, thinking etc., or a release from restraint or compulsion.”

    The intertwining and overlaps have blurred the lines of definition, but the standards that the words, “Freedom and Liberty” imply are part and parcel of our Republic; the bottom line, one cannot exist without the other.  

    Walt Mow 2020

    Check out another author’s original work on Independence here: Independence Day – an original poem by Dork Anubis

  • America’s Founding Was Greatest Anti-Slavery Movement in History

    America’s Founding Was Greatest Anti-Slavery Movement in History

    Intrinsic to the founding principles of our country, America institutionalized freedom, institutionalized opportunity, and institutionalized justice. (Photo: Moussa81/Getty Images)

    America’s Founding Was Greatest Anti-Slavery Movement in History

    Thomas Krannawitter / July 02, 2020 

    This Independence Day, more than any in living memory, it is vitally important that we reflect upon that greatest of all anti-slavery documents, the Declaration of Independence.

    That document in turn launched the greatest abolitionist movement in human history: the United States of America.

    The United States was not founded as a regime of institutionalized racism, tribalism, or injustice. Intrinsic to the founding principles of this country, America institutionalized freedom, institutionalized opportunity, and institutionalized justice.

    We need only remember. And we should. It might be the only thing that prevents our country from further descent into violent chaos and the tyranny that typically follows.

    Slavery is old. Slavery is older than human history, stretching back thousands of years to prehistoric times, before written historical records were kept.

    Slavery has taken different forms among different people in different places around the globe, existing at one time or another—often for long periods of time—on every continent. Sometimes slavery has resulted from war, sometimes from religious persecution, sometimes from debt. Skin color has been important in some kinds of slavery, not so much in others.

    When the sciences of shipbuilding and sailing became advanced enough for the reliable transportation of cargo, transoceanic trade in slaves became big business. It was the first time large numbers of slaves were sold and sent to distant lands, where they lived among people strikingly different from themselves.

    Much ugliness and injustice dwells in the stories of the slave trade. It is heart-wrenching to learn human beings were treated as mere property, owned, controlled, used, bought and sold by others. 

    Injustice is colorblind.

    Amid the growth of the international slave trades—and in the context of the much older story of slavery itself—one group of people, far from being morally perfect, dared to declare a universal, true moral idea: that all men are created equal in terms of inalienable natural rights to life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness.

    And these imperfect people set for themselves an ambitious goal for which there was no historical model: to create a new nation upon that idea.

    The idea was enshrined forever in the America’s Declaration of Independence, and memorialized in Abraham Lincoln’s famous speech at the Gettysburg cemetery.

    The American idea is perfect. Every human being, regardless of looks, language, or religious beliefs—whether rich or poor or in between—does possess, by nature, a morally rightful claim to his or her own freedom, to whatever he or she rightfully owns, equal to all other human beings.

    We know that injustices are wrong—we know that slavery is wrong—precisely because we know that the American idea is right. 

    To live up to the American idea means abandoning slavery and all forms of tribalism in our public policies. No dividing citizens into groups, granting special government-dispersed powers, perks, favors, and crony subsidies to some while placing special burdens on others. No turning our backs on the natural rights of some. No stealing from others. No giving to the politically privileged and the politically preferred what they have not earned. 

    In the early decades of our republic, many Americans made big strides toward their goal. They treated slavery like a cancer: prohibiting the supply of slaves from Africa; prohibiting the spread of slavery to new federal territories; confining slavery to where it existed in the original states. Between the Declaration of Independence and 1800, a mere 24 years, half of those original states abolished domestic slavery.

    Never before had a people declared their own independence upon a universal moral idea that applies to all human beings, everywhere, always. Never before had so much been done to constrain and eliminate slavery so quickly.

    The American Founding was the greatest anti-slavery movement in human history, hands down.

    That was not the end of the tragic story, of course. Changes in technology, new business opportunities, the importation of 19th-century European philosophy and science, and rigid biblical theologies sparked new economic interests in slavery while convincing Southern slavers that they were right.

    Through a terrible, bloody Civil War, Americans abolished slavery by way of a constitutional amendment, only a few more than four score and seven years after the Declaration of Independence.

    The American idea requires equal protection of the laws for the equal individual rights of each and every citizen. Period.

    Let us embrace our own beautiful founding idea. Let us show the world, by example, what institutionalized freedom, institutionalized opportunity, and institutionalized justice look like.

    All we need do is live up to our own standard in our policies and our practices. All we have to do is remember and reflect upon the true ideas contained in our own Declaration of Independence.

    Thomas Krannawitter

    Thomas L. Krannawitter, Ph.D., a former professor, is co-founder of The Vino & Veritas Society, which is devoted to forming a Declaration of Independence culture in America. His many books include “Vindicating Lincoln” (2008), which was featured by the History Book Club and endorsed by the Abraham Lincoln Bicentennial Commission.

  • Cat Sh*t One

    Cat Sh*t One

    This video showed up in my YouTube feed a couple of weeks ago. I liked it so much, I changed my avatar to one of the characters, Packy.

    From IMDB:

    Botasky and Packy are private contractors, working in the Middle East, with support from a distant helicopter-mobile base. Their jobs are as “sniper” and “spotter”, the spotter is the team lead (as is accurate military protocol). Their assignment is to extract two captives, an ally, and a local. The characters are 1. Rabbits (contractors), and 2. Camels (locals). Rabbits seem to have been chosen due to the Japanese word for Rabbit is Usagi, which can be interpreted to be U.S.A. GI. The Team must interpret the situation, and decide whether to extract the victims themselves or wait for further support. Things seem to be moving rapidly in a negative direction, so the Team elects to split up, and do the extraction themselves. They split up, with Packy going into a village to locate and pull the victims out, and Botasky providing over-watch and sniping support. The fighting is rapid, and smooth, with Packy showing a great deal of speed and agility. The sniping is rapid and smooth. Packy’s weapon transfers are perfect. His shooting is controlled and precise, no wasted spray and pray mag dumps. The enemy gets ground support, which complicates things, Botasky is located and shut down as a sniper, and the rescue seems to be compromised, until the Team gets it’s own Air Support.

    https://youtu.be/SrJk1qmthd4
  • Pick the Stone you like

    Pick the Stone you like

    Where I live is in the middle of Mother Nature’s playground

    meh

    it’s where I fit in best

    my bloodline is not as old as the rocks I stand on but damn close so that’s close enough

    while looking at this Statue of Hiawatha & and his Woman

    think in these terms

    the Song of Solomon

    Behold, you are beautiful, my love,
    behold, you are beautiful!
    Your eyes are doves
    behind your veil.
    Your hair is like a flock of goats
    leaping down the slopes of Gilead.
    Your teeth are like a flock of shorn ewes
    that have come up from the washing,
    all of which bear twins,
    and not one among them has lost its young.
    Your lips are like a scarlet thread,
    and your mouth is lovely.
    Your cheeks are like halves of a pomegranate
    behind your veil.
    Your neck is like the tower of David,
    built in rows of stone;a
    on it hang a thousand shields,
    all of them shields of warriors.
    Your two breasts are like two fawns,
    twins of a gazelle,
    that graze among the lilies.
    Until the day breathes
    and the shadows flee,
    I will go away to the mountain of myrrh
    and the hill of frankincense.
    You are altogether beautiful, my love;
    there is no flaw in you.
    Come with me from Lebanon, my bride;
    come with me from Lebanon.
    Departb from the peak of Amana,
    from the peak of Senir and Hermon,
    from the dens of lions,
    from the mountains of leopards.

    You have captivated my heart, my sister, my bride;
    you have captivated my heart with one glance of your eyes,
    with one jewel of your necklace.
    How beautiful is your love, my sister, my bride!
    How much better is your love than wine,
    and the fragrance of your oils than any spice!
    Your lips drip nectar, my bride;
    honey and milk are under your tongue;
    the fragrance of your garments is like the fragrance of Lebanon.
    A garden locked is my sister, my bride,
    a spring locked, a fountain sealed.
    Your shoots are an orchard of pomegranates
    with all choicest fruits,
    henna with nard,
    nard and saffron, calamus and cinnamon,
    with all trees of frankincense,
    myrrh and aloes,
    with all choice spices—
    a garden fountain, a well of living water,
    and flowing streams from Lebanon.

    Awake, O north wind,
    and come, O south wind!
    Blow upon my garden,
    let its spices flow.

    Now granted, giving a Woman a rock for her would no doubt cause her to get those little flakes of sparklies in her irises

    (noticing the small things are important)

    sure sign of OHH YEAH

    Happiness & Great Joy will be her face

    unless you bring her where Dragon eggs are found, not diamonds

    Dragon Egg

    Never heard of of them eh?

    Not surprised for they are only found in my neck of the woods

    on the whole damn plant

    Imagine if you will, sayin

    Woman get in here, I’m gonna paint you

    (ohh how cool)

    get naked an sit there

    (on canvas?)

    NO! I’m going to paint on you

    arrows and words

    it’s the only way to see the Dragon egg 🙂

  • Hello world! Calling all Veterans and Patriots

    Hello world! Calling all Veterans and Patriots

    🇺🇸 Welcome to our new site!!! 🇺🇸

    We have launched a home for veterans and non-vet patriots to engage in conversation and information sharing.

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    We encourage anyone who has news to share, a project to promote, an original essay, or any other item that would be of interest to veterans and patriots, to become a contributor.

    Generate a WordPress account here 👉 WordPress.com

    We would be happy to supply tutorials for anyone interested in submitting a post using the WordPress platform

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  • Conversation over Black Coffee & Gunpowder Tea

    Conversation over Black Coffee & Gunpowder Tea

    Welcome to our Daily Open Thread

    We hope you will join us here every morning to share your thoughts, dreams, aspirations, frustrations, and anger, in the company of fellow Veterans and non-veteran Patriots.

    So sit back, take a sip, and tell us what’s on your mind!

  • What took place at the Iranian Natanz nuclear facility?

    What took place at the Iranian Natanz nuclear facility?

    The incident is the third mysterious explosion in a week and has led to many questions.

    By SETH J. FRANTZMAN  | Jerusalem Post 

    The plot thickened on Thursday afternoon hours after a building at a nuclear facility looked to have blown up in Iran. Reports of a “explosive device planted,” and an early warning, as well as a dissident group taking responsibility now adds to questions and concerns about what happened at the sensitive site.The building affected by some kind of an explosion is located at the Natanz nuclear enrichment facility. Iran had alerted the world to the incident in the morning of July 2 and even took state media for a tour to show that while there had been some kind of incident, the nuclear facility was not in danger. It is the third mysterious explosion in a week and has led to many questions.The New York Times reported that “a Middle Eastern intelligence official…said the blast was caused by an explosive device planted inside the facility. The explosion, he said, destroyed much of the above ground parts of the facility.”This is important because it was allegedly the above ground portion of a larger area where new centrifuges are “balanced before they are put into operations.” Iran is known for building underground facilities that obscure or protect their activities, including at missile and nuclear sites.It now looks increasingly likely the incident was deliberate, an attack of act of sabotage. Adding to the question of how this happened, a group called the “Homeland Panthers” claimed responsibility, according to emails allegedly sent to BBC Persian. The emails arrived “hours before any news of the incident had emerged,” according to Radio Farda. The emails however claimed something more complex. They asserted there was an attack and then a cover up. They wanted to blow the lid on the cover up.When did the attack happen?Around two in the morning on July 2. It was not widely reported in Iranian media until some eight hours later. IRIB News gave a tour of the area that was burned in the afternoon. The Associated Press noted that the US National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration has data from a satellite tracking fires that shows a fire at around 2 a.m. This corresponds with someone on the ground who allegedly heard an explosion.

    https://twitter.com/JasonMBrodsky/status/1278711235614310403

    The Associated Press report quotes Fabian Hinz of the James Martin Center for Nonproliferation Studies as noting the fire took place at a new centrifuge production facility. David Albright of the Institute for Science and International Security agreed that the fire was at a new production facility. This would be a set back for Iran’s production. Hinz said it could delay the advancement of centrifuge technology.Iran may be hinting at threats to Israel now.An analysis piece at IRNA news said the “Zionist regime and the US” were crossing red lines. Natanz has been struck in the past. In 2010 workers found that high-speed centrifuges had been sabotaged by the Stuxnet computer worm. In November 2019 as Iran began to walk away from the Iran nuclear deal in response to the US also leaving the deal, the Atomic Energy Organization of Iran said it had doubled the number of advanced centrifuges at the site. Iran had previously agreed to install only 5,060 of the lesser efficient centrifuges it had at Natanz until 2026. An inspector of the site was also denied entry the same month. This means it was widely known last year that Iran was progressing with enrichment at Natanz. According to reports at the end of last year it had unveiled 30 IR-6 centrifuges and there were 60 of these spinning at Natanz at the time.

    Source: www.jpost.com: What took place at the Iranian Natanz nuclear facility?

    Managing Editors Note:

    The incident at Natanz comes a week after an explosion at or near another suspected nuclear site, Parchin, just east of Tehran and a day after an explosion in a hospital in Tehran.

    Who the “Homeland Panthers” are is unclear, as the MEK, who are the Kurdish resistance to the ayatollahs, denied any responsibility for the explosion at Natanz. Official Iranian state media are pointing to Israel as the culprit.

    — KITDAFBS — 04 July 2020

  • Study ties hydroxychloroquine use to lower COVID-19 death rate

    Study ties hydroxychloroquine use to lower COVID-19 death rate

    BY MARTY JOHNSON – 07/03/20 02:47 PM EDT

    A study released Thursday links the use of hydroxychloroquine by COVID-19 patients to lower death rates, as health experts around the country try to find an effective treatment to combat the pandemic.

    The study, conducted by Michigan’s Henry Ford Health System, states that hydroxychloroquine, the controversial anti-malarial drug heralded by the White House as a potential treatment for the coronavirus, “significantly” lowered the mortality rate among COVID-19 patients.

    In patients who received the drug, the death rate was 13 percent as compared to a death rate of 26.4 percent in patients who weren’t administered the treatment.

    “The findings have been highly analyzed and peer-reviewed,” Marcus Zervos, co-author of the study and division head of Infectious Disease for Henry Ford Health System, said in a statement. “We attribute our findings that differ from other studies to early treatment, and part of a combination of interventions that were done in supportive care of patients, including careful cardiac monitoring. Our dosing also differed from other studies not showing a benefit of the drug.”

    However, several weeks ago the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) yanked hydroxychloroquine’s emergency use authorization, citing data from a large randomized controlled trial that showed no difference between using hydroxychloroquine and standard COVID-19 treatment.

    Doctors have also warned that the drug, mainly used to combat malaria and lupus, could cause fatal cardiac problems.

    Earlier this week, the Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency said that its global trials of hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine, another anti-malarial drug, would resume Friday. 

    Source: thehill.com: Study ties hydroxychloroquine use to lower COVID-19 death rate


    Rogue Unicorn’s take…….

    I have been behind this treatment option from the start. With careful cardiac monitoring, and dosing according to this study’s parameters, the benefits appear to clearly outweigh the risks.

    What do YOU think. If you or a loved one were to contract Covid-19 would you want this treatment employed?