It depends on the definition, point of view works to

Sippin a coffee as usual, yaknow, that picture is of an Assblaster

The battle over who can lay claim to America’s flag, historians say, has been raging since at least the Vietnam War, when both Democrats and Republicans waved it at demonstrations for or against the conflict that divided the nation.

I’ve been around while, maybe someone can help me out here, what the hell does this even mean

“As nation turns 250, many Americans say the Stars and Stripes is now a red flag”

“I’m very proud of our flag,” the writer said. “It’s the symbol of ‘We, the People.’”

But as the polarized nation marks its 250th birthday, Watson, 72, worries his Stars and Stripes may now need an asterisk. “If we do fly the flag, we will also put out signs to make it clear that we are not MAGA,” he said.

Rather than not fly the flag, several readers said they plan to show their patriotism — and protest Trump — by flying it upside down to signal that the country is in distress.

Rather than fly the Stars and Stripes, Master Sgt. Frank Chappell of the Air National Guard has gone with an alternate flag.

“Part of what makes us Americans is that we can meet in the middle, we can come together in the center and find things we can all agree on,” said Chappell, who is assigned to the 171st Air Refueling Wing outside Pittsburgh and stressed that he was speaking only for himself. “But what Trump has been doing, through some of his rhetoric and policies, is driving a wedge between Americans, dividing us even further. So when I bought my home, I replaced the U.S. flag with the state flag of Pennsylvania.”

A Rhode Island teacher, who asked not to be identified to protect her family, said she, too, is flying alternate flags — the rainbow Pride flag and the banner of her beloved New England Patriots.

“I was always patriotic, flew the flag, wore red, white and blue with flags and fireworks all summer,” she said. “Now, I’ve watched Trump and MAGA turn the flag into a symbol of intolerance and hate.”

Some readers said they were motivated by peer pressure more than patriotism.

“I display my flag outside my home mainly because everyone else around my neighborhood does it, even though I’m not 100% proud to be American,” said a Newtown, Pennsylvania, woman, who also asked to remain anonymous. “I feel that if I don’t have a flag displayed somewhere, people will think I’m against our country or something.”

“The right used it to make the point that patriotism meant that the U.S. could do no wrong even when it did,” said Alex Wagner, an adjunct professor at Syracuse University’s Maxwell School of Citizenship & Public Affairs. “People on the left used it to make the point that we as Americans shouldn’t be fighting a war that’s at odds with our national principles, like that of self-determination.”

But it was the hard right that “seized the flag” and began smearing all liberals as unpatriotic, said Sean Wilentz, a historian at Princeton University.

“Conservative and right-wing politicians went along with this, exploited it, and the dialectic of disaffection worsened,” Wilentz said, adding that Trump has amplified that brand of patriotism.

Right-wing, what the hell is that, someone who believes in our founding documents?

Seems like the lines are forming up

Reading through that rubbish was thinkin, are those the kind of comments before the Revolutionary war, patriots & loyalists, or something that resembles table talk before the civil war. A little something from the late 40’s/50’s